WINNING Ways host, James Goodman found Mike de Kock in top interviewing form on his Monday show, at the start of Mike’s annual Durban soujourn in which “all rooms face the sea” from his Umhlanga Mansion.

James, the wily host, prompts thought-provoking comments on a variety of issues including African Horse Sickness, handicapping, grooms fees, sand racing, his 2017 Dubai string, stipendiary stewards and golf.

When you get Mdk, a truly cunning linguist, in the mood, sparks will fly, you may laugh or even cry.

Essential viewing, here.